RE: [ncarg-talk] running idt under cygwin

Mary,

        I finally tracked down the cause of idt crashing my X server under cygwin. This was discovered by accident by another colleague of mine when he installed cygwin and NCARG on his laptop. The culprit is in the startxwin.bat file. There is a line in the file that starts the X server. It looks like this.

%RUN% XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error

I had modified it to look like this.

%RUN% XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error +bs

The "+bs" turns on backing store to allow you to cover the idt display window with another and then uncover it without losing the image. Without backing store, idt does not crash the X server. With it turned on, idt crashes the X server if the window is resized or moved.

        I was wondering if you could try this and see if you can duplicate the behavior. You need to make sure that the X server is shut down before you start a new one after you modify the startxwin.bat file. Assuming you can duplicate the behavior, is this a cygwin problem or an NCARG problem? The backing store used to work in previous versions of NCARG/cygwin. This behavior is specific only to idt and not other X windows (xclock, xterm ...).

Thanks,
Joe

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mary Haley [mailto:haley@ucar.edu]
> Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 12:25 PM
> To: Joe Crepeau
> Subject: Re: running idt under cygwin
>
> Hi Joe,
>
> I'm not sure what the "startxwin" file is supposed to be. Is this
> some of the output you're seeing when you
> start up idt?
>
> -Mary
>
> On Jul 10, 2009, at 10:30 AM, Joe Crepeau wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mary Haley [mailto:haley@ucar.edu]
> > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 9:54 AM
> > To: Joe Crepeau
> > Subject: RE: [ncarg-talk] running idt under cygwin
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > > From: Mary Haley [mailto:haley@ucar.edu]
> >
> > > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 9:38 AM
> >
> > > To: Joe Crepeau
> >
> > > Subject: RE: [ncarg-talk] running idt under cygwin
> >
> > >
> >
> > > On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, Joe Crepeau wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > >> Hi Mary,
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >> When I start idt I get the two windows (status and
> > display). Below is a screenshot of the status window. This is
> > normal behavior.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Hi Joe,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Are you able to select a file without idt crashing? I assume so,
> >
> > > because this is what you do before you click the play button.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Yes. It only crashes when I try to display a plot.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > How long ago did you install X/Cygwin? How do you start up
> >
> > > an xterm?
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I updated cygwin yesterday. I assume that when I run the cygwin
> > setup that it goes out and gets the latest for all of the packages
> > you have selected, right?
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, it should. Sometimes it might be worth doing "reinstall" to make
> >
> > sure everything's okay.
> >
> >
> >
> > > xterm
> >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > Have you ever tried starting up the X server by double-clicking on the
> >
> > "startwin.bat" file that's in /usr/bin?
> >
> >
> >
> > By "double-clicking" I mean to do a basic Windows search for this
> >
> > file, and then double-click on the icon that it should find. It
> >
> > should look like a little yellow cogwheel. I make a shortcut out of
> >
> > this icon, and just double-click this to start up the X server and
> >
> > open an xterm.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mary,
> >
> >
> >
> > If you mean "startxwin.bat", then yes. That is how I
> > open my initial xterm and start the X server. I have attached my
> > startxwin.bat file (renamed to make it through the email filters).
> > BTW, I guess /usr/bin is linked to /bin now, right? When I go to /
> > usr/bin on the Windows side, there are no files there. Yet when I
> > go there on the cygwin side, they are there.
> >
> >
> >
> > What do you mean by a "reinstall"? What I have done is
> > gone to the "Select Packages" window in the cygwin setup, selected
> > "curr" and clicked the "next" button. Is that what you mean? Is
> > there a way to reinstall everything?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
> > > --Mary
> >
> > >
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >> One other piece of the puzzle is that when I use the cygwin X
> > server to display plots through idt while logged into a Linux
> > workstation, I also get the same problem (server crashes). This
> > behavior is only with idt (i.e. I can run xclock, xterm, ... and
> > they work fine). Only idt causes the X windows server to die,
> > whether idt is run under cygwin or Linux. If I use another X
> > windows server such as ReflectionX, idt works fine. Strange, huh!
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >> Joe
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> >
> > >> From: Mary Haley [mailto:haley@ucar.edu]
> >
> > >> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:09 PM
> >
> > >> To: Joe Crepeau
> >
> > >> Subject: RE: [ncarg-talk] running idt under cygwin
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >> Joe,
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >> My Cygwin/X window looks just like yours. How do you do the screen
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >> capture, and I could send it to you.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >> One thought I had about idt: when you login, do you see a lot of
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >> output to the screen, or maybe an error message? I think idt
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >> starts a new shell, and it's possible that if your current shell
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >> has problems, this may cause idt to core dump.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >> --Mary
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >> On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Joe Crepeau wrote:
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>> Mary,
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>> I just updated my cygwin. Still no luck! Below is
> > a screen capture of the X window that starts up when I do
> > "startxwin" or when I run "xterm". Does your window look like this
> > (with the bar on top containing "Main Options", "VT Options" and
> > "VT Fonts")? My windows used to look different. My problems
> > started when my X windows started looking like this. It makes me
> > think that my problem is related to this, but I'm at a loss. I may
> > have to re-install my cygwin, unless you have some other suggestions.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>> Thanks,
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>> Joe
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>> [cid:image002.jpg@01C9FFF3.C2EB0DD0]
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>> From: Mary Haley [mailto:haley@ucar.edu]
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:44 PM
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>> To: Joe Crepeau
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>> Subject: RE: [ncarg-talk] running idt under cygwin
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>> Joe,
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>> On my new Cygwin box, I was still able to use idt just fine.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>> Have you updated Cygwin/X lately on your system?
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>> I'm rebuilding everything with the gcc-4/gfortran-4 compilers
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>> to see if this makes a difference. This could take all day.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>> --Mary
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>> On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Joe Crepeau wrote:
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> Mary,
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> Thank you for continuing to pursue this for me.
> > Unfortunately, the new idt still does not work. It behaves the
> > same as my version. My version of ictrans does work. Also, your
> > new version of ctrans works. My version of ctrans displays plots
> > fine but still requires that I kill the process after it has
> > displayed the last plot.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> I'll be curious to find out how the new test machine
> > does with the new cygwin and the new build.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> Thanks again,
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> Joe
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> From: Mary Haley [mailto:haley@ucar.edu]
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 2:10 PM
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> To: Joe Crepeau
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> Subject: RE: [ncarg-talk] running idt under cygwin
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> Joe,
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> I got my Cygwin box back briefly today, only long enough to
> > reinstall
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> old cygwin software, make a backup and say good-bye to it,
> > because
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> they are about to toast it and give me another machine.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> I did try rebuilding ctrans with the "bad" code removed, and
> > got a
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> working version. But, I'm not sure how it will behave for you.
> > Also,
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> idt is working fine for me.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> If you want to try my versions of these executables, here's where
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> you can get them:
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> ftp ftp.ucar.edu
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> <log in as "anonymous">
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> <Use email address as password>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> cd /pub/scd/haley
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> mget *new.exe
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> quit
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> Once you have the files, make sure they are executable, and
> > move them to
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> $NCARG_ROOT/bin:
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> chmod gou+x idt_new.exe ctrans_new.exe
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> mv idt_new.exe ctrans_new.exe $NCARG_ROOT/bin/.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> Now you can try them out:
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> idt_new your_file.ncgm
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> ctrans_new -d X11 your_file.ncgm
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> If you are comfortable that these executables workd, you can
> > replace
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> your old ones.. You should first make a copy:
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> mv $NCARG_ROOT/bin/idt.exe $NCARG_ROOT/bin/idt_old.exe
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> mv $NCARG_ROOT/bin/ctrans.exe $NCARG_ROOT/bin/ctrans_old.exe
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> mv $NCARG_ROOT/bin/idt_new.exe $NCARG_ROOT/bin/idt.exe
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> mv $NCARG_ROOT/bin/ctrans_new.exe $NCARG_ROOT/bin/ctrans.exe
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> Keep me posted if you still have problems.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> Once I get a new test machine (they say tomorrow) I will try a
> > brand
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> new install of cygwin, and a new build.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> --Mary
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> Mary Haley
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> haley _at_ ucar.edu
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> NCAR/CISL/VETS
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> 1850 Table Mesa Dr
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> Boulder, CO 80305
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>> On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Joe Crepeau wrote:
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>> Mary,
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>> We do use the X11 windows and Postscripts files from
> > time-to-time, but for quick viewing, idt is the method of choice.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>> Good luck with your CYGWIN upgrade/installation. I
> > have a feeling you will start seeing the same problems as me with
> > the new CYGWIN. I'm interested to see how it goes.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>> Thanks for all your help.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>> Joe
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>> From: Mary Haley [mailto:haley@ucar.edu]
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:51 AM
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>> To: Joe Crepeau
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>> Subject: RE: [ncarg-talk] running idt under cygwin
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>> I think I missed this email.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>> In answer to using something else to view gmeta files, ctrans
> > and
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>> idt are it.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>> Although, I would say, instead of gmeta files, to use X11
> > windows or
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>> PS files. :-)
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>> I'm still waiting for my PC. They are having problems upgrading.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>> I have bad feeling it's going to come back "different".
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>> Maybe I can try a clean install of Cygwin and see if it goes
> > any better.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>> --Mary
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>> On Mon, 29 Jun 2009, Joe Crepeau wrote:
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>> From: Mary Haley [mailto:haley@ucar.edu]
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:01 PM
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>> To: Joe Crepeau
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>> Subject: RE: [ncarg-talk] running idt under cygwin
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>> On Mon, 29 Jun 2009, Joe Crepeau wrote:
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>> Mary,
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>> Here is the output from "uname -a" on the Mac.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>> Darwin swd-jecmacpro.swd.ara.com 9.6.0 Darwin Kernel
> > Version 9.6.0: Mon Nov 24 17:37:00 PST 2008; root:xnu-1228.9.59~1/
> > RELEASE_I386 i386
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>> GNU gfortran (GCC) 4.4.0 20080801
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>> Do you have problems with the binary version of NCL, or are
> > you building
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>> your own from source?
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>> The binaries usually don't work for my applications, so I
> > build from the source.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>> Regarding idt crashing, do you have any suggestions on
> > what to do? I don't think that I mentioned that when it crashes,
> > it also kills all of my X windows and I have to run startxwin
> > again. Also, this happens when I run idt remotely from a Linux
> > cluster and use the CYGWIN X server. If I use something like
> > ReflectionX for the X server, idt works fine. Do you think this is
> > a problem for the CYGWIN folks?
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>> I'm not certain yet. My Cygwin box was taken away this
> > morning to
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>> do an upgrade, and then just called me and said it was taking
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>> longer than expected.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>> Unfortunately, "idt" is an old tool which we don't keep up-
> > to-date.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>> Can I ask what you use it for?
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>> We use "idt" to view the gmeta files very quickly. What do
> > you suggest? Is there a new viewer?
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>> One final question; during my recent attempts to install
> > NCARG on a number of platforms, I have noticed that either when I
> > run the configure or the make scripts, that it replaces strings
> > like "Linux" or "i686" that happen to be in some of my paths with
> > the number one. So, the path /home/jcrepeau/Linux/codes/ncarg
> > becomes /home/jcrepeau/1/codes/ncarg. Do you have a suggestion as
> > to how to fix this, aside from not using these strings in my paths?
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>> Yes, use single tick marks around the path.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>> For example, if you have in your $NCARG/config/Site.local file:
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>> #define YmakeRoot /home/jcrepeau/Linux/codes/ncarg
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>> you can chnange this to:
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>> #define YmakeRoot '/home/jcrepeau/Linux/codes/ncarg'
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>> Thank you. I will do that.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>> --Mary
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>> Joe
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>> From: Mary Haley [mailto:haley@ucar.edu]
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 8:06 AM
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>> To: Joe Crepeau
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: running idt under cygwin
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>> Hi Joe,
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>> I'm going to take this offline for now.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>> Can you give me more details about the 8-core Mac system?
> > What
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>> does "uname -a" report? What version of the compilers are
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>> you running there?
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>> I'm going to try to get on my Windows box and check this out.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>> --Mary
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Joe Crepeau wrote:
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>> Mary,
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>> I am using gcc and gfortran. However, the build does not
> > usually hang while it is compiling. Many times it's shortly after
> > the build starts, before any compilation. BTW, I have also
> > experienced the hanging problem on an 8-core Mac.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>> Joe
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>> From: Mary Haley [mailto:haley@ucar.edu]
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:42 PM
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>> To: Joe Crepeau
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>> Cc: ncarg-talk@ucar.edu
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: running idt under cygwin
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Joe Crepeau wrote:
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> Mary,
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> Based on your comments, I remember now that my
> > solution in the past was to use the pre-compiled binaries for idt
> > and ictrans because I was unable to get them to build properly. I
> > downloaded the precompiled binaries and tried them, but I get the
> > same behavior. This is starting to look like a CYGWIN problem.
> > How up-to-date is your CYGWIN installation? I assume that you are
> > not experiencing the same problem. Any suggestions at this point?
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> ictrans works just fine. ctrans works but
> > hangs when I get to the end of the gmeta file and I have to kill
> > the process in another window.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>> I'll have to try this when I get to work. I'm working from
> > home today,
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>> and don't have access to a Cygwin machine.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> While I have your attention, I have also
> > noticed that when I moved from a single-core PC to a dual core that
> > every so often, the build of ncarg will hang at different places in
> > the build process. Have you encountered this problem before? I
> > never had the problem on a single-core machine.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>> I've had problems mostly on my Cygwin box, and one of my
> > Mac boxes,
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>> and attributed it to a bad compiler.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>> But, now that you mention it, the one Mac that I have
> > problems with is
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>> the dual core one. This hasn't been happening as much.
> > Which compilers
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>> are you using?
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>> --Mary
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> Joe
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> From: Mary Haley [mailto:haley@ucar.edu]
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 10:05 PM
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> To: Joe Crepeau; ncarg-talk@ucar.edu
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: running idt under cygwin
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> Hi Joe,
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> I haven't seen this problem, but then, I'm still using
> > g77 under
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> Cygwin.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> I think I had too many problems with gfortran.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> One thing you could try is to just rebuild "idt" and
> > "ictrans" with
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> g77/gcc V3.x and see if this makes a difference.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> Also, you could try downloading the precompiled Cygwin
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> binary just for the "idt" and "ictrans" binaries and try
> > them out.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> "ictrans" is used by "idt"; that's why they are mentioned
> > together.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> Are you able to run ictrans, by any chance?
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> ictrans gmeta
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> ictrans> 1p
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> ictrans> quit
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> --Mary
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:31:09 +0000
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> Joe Crepeau <jcrepeau@ara.com> wrote:
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> Recently I updated CYGWIN on my PC and idt no
> > longer
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> works properly. I can start idt, but if I click the
> > play button or
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> relocate the display window, idt crashes.
> > Interestingly, if I resize
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> the window first, it appears to work fine. I just can't
> > move the
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> window.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> I tried rebuilding the NCARG library (version
> > 5.1.1)
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> under the new CYGWIN installation, but I continue to
> > have the same
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> problem. I am using gfortran 4.3.0. Is this an NCARG
> > problem or is
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> it a CYGWIN problem? Have you seen this before?
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> One note, in order to get idt to build properly I have
> > to copy a
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> file called "lex.yy_linux.c", which Mary gave me a while
> > back, into
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> the $NCARG/ncarview/src/lib/libictrans/lec.yy.c and do a
> > "make all
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> install" in there and in the ../../bin/ictrans
> > directory. If I
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> don't, I get an error that looks like this:
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> ../../../.././ncarview/src/lib/libictrans/
> > libictrans.o:lex_stuff.c:(.text+0x46fc):
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> undefined reference to `_yylsp'
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> Could this be causing the problem?
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> Joe
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> ****************************
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> Joseph Crepeau
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> Computational Physics Group Leader
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> Applied Research Associates, Inc.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> 4300 San Mateo Blvd. NE
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> Suite A-220
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> Albuquerque, NM 87110-1295
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> (505) 816-6337 (P)
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> (505) 872-0794 (F)
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> ****************************
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> ncarg-talk mailing list
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> ncarg-talk@ucar.edu
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/ncarg-talk
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>> ncarg-talk mailing list
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>> ncarg-talk@ucar.edu
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>> http://mailman.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/ncarg-talk
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >
> >
> > <startxwin>
Received on Thu Sep 17 12:49:46 2009